After last night's game, Manchester United fan Jay Motty said he feels like it's "the end" for Michael Carrick as head coach.

"That was as bad as I've seen United in a long, long time," he added. "Como looked up for it, looked well organised, looked well drilled, looked passionate - we didn't look any of those things.

"Is a new manager going to change this? Probably not. But I feel like a new manager's going to happen sooner rather than later, and I'll be surprised if Michael Carrick sees the end of the week as Manchester United manager.

"He's been found wanting this season, and he's been let down massively by the players and by the board."

John Murray
BBC football correspondent on Football Daily

I'm surprised at the size of the result and the comments after it as well, they're really damaging aren't they?

I thought they did well to keep a lid on it after Martinez said what he did. But it's a different level now. It's a different level when it comes from the captain.

BBC Radio 5 Live football correspondent John Murray was at Bayern Munich on Wednesday night to watch their 2-2 draw with Arsenal.

He spoke with 5 Live Breakfast this morning about the current contrast between Bayern and Manchester United, who beat the German giants in the 1999 Champions League final to secure the Treble under Sir Alex Ferguson...

Nedum Onuoha
Former Man City defender on MOTD: UEFA Champions League

On captain Bruno Fernandes' criticism of Manchester United's tactics and head coach Michael Carrick's curt response:

It's not good at all. I think for them to be clashing with their messaging after such a tough defeat is a huge issue because you want everybody to come together and try to figure out a way to get through difficult times on the same page.

But for those two that definitely doesn't seem to be the case.

I think last week's outburst by Lisandro Martinez was more about the football club itself, whereas this one here is about someone [Fernandes] bringing into question the manager's tactics and also [from Carrick, criticising] the way the players are playing for the manager.

Bruno Fernandes thinks the tactics where essentially wrong in this game, whereas Michael Carrick thinks the players were not running enough in this game for the tactics to work out.

When you find those sorts of splits it can be very hard in a dressing room to maintain energy behind a manager.

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Reacting to Bruno Fernandes' comments, CBS Sports, external pundit Jamie Carragher was in shock at what he heard - branding "awful attitude" Fernandes a "disgrace" and declaring his actions as 'not what a Manchester United captain should be'.

"We said Lisandro Martínez was bang out of order last week for calling out the hierarchy above him. For Bruno Fernandes to do that is a disgrace really," Carragher said.

"When you think about last season, he got player of the year. That was on the back of Michael Carrick becoming the manager. He wouldn't have got that award without Michael Carrick, because Michael Carrick put him back in his rightful position and he then went on to have a fantastic season because he's a talented footballer.

"But when you think of him as a footballer, he's a talent, but in terms of attitude and the way he goes about things, it's not right at all.

"And he's reacted like that because he's been brought off and he's been embarrassed tonight by the manager as he brought him off. And when he talks about pressing, whether it's man to man or zonal, for years, Bruno Fernandes has meant Manchester United can't press because he does things for the crowd.

"I commentate on games watching Man United and he runs all over the place like a kid in the schoolyard for the supporters. They all think he's working hard - he's not. He's killing the rest of the team doing it.

"Years ago, there was a captain called Bryan Robson, one of the greatest players to ever play for Man United because he played for the club, he didn't throw the manager or the players under the bus.

"He kept fighting for Manchester United and watching him throw his arms up every week in a game is an absolute disgrace, calling the manager out considering how he's performed this season on the pitch.

"Awful attitude and not what a Manchester United captain should be."

Julien Laurens
French football journalist on TNT Sports

Bruno Fernandes is the captain but he's been far from irreproachable this season in terms of his own level.

Obviously, this is a dig at the staff, a dig at Michael Carrick.

Lisandro Martinez going out publicly like he did and then being sanctioned with a fine that is nothing to him, he's earning so much money.

Now Bruno, six or seven days later, it's not a good look for a club that seems to be in so much disarray that there's not even any discipline because the players feel the freedom to say whatever they want.

Kasper Schmeichel
Former Celtic goalkeeper on the Football Daily podcast

It's a really precarious situation Man United find themselves in now.

I've been in situations myself, as a player you feel like the management and the club aren't aligned from top to bottom and you feel alone out there. I think that's what Bruno Fernandez is doing, he's reacting to feeling alone out there.

He was trying to press but there wasn't anyone following him up and his body language wasn't great. But given what's happened he shouldn't be saying these things, it's not going to help.

You learn that these things are better kept in-house.

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Joe Cole
Former Chelsea and England midfielder on TNT Sports

Bruno Fernandes is absolutely questioning the tactics and it doesn't matter if he's right to do so. You cannot do that - that's sacrilege.

I've played for managers I've played for where you don't agree with the tactics and you might say that to your mate or your wife. You don't come out, as captain of the club, and question the manager.

He doesn't even do it properly. If you're going to do it, come out and and say it with your chest. He's saying it and he probably thinks he's being clever - 'well I didn't really say it, gaffer'.

You can think the manager has got the tactics wrong, that's fine. Go into his office tomorrow morning and have a conversation but to come out in front of the nation as club captain and question your manager is simply unacceptable.

Hmm. I'd say that an extremely generous interpretation, Christine.

He also said "it's a decision by the staff not to press man-to-man" and how they helped Como find space and gain confidence.

That led to him being directly asked if the tactics were wrong and the quote you mentioned. Personally, I don't think there can be too much doubt he was criticising the manager's tactics...

Some scathing comments there from Samuel, Ben and Pete. And there are plenty more where they came from!

If you are just joining us, we are just picking through the wreckage of Manchester United's 4-1 Champions League defeat at Como, and the subsequent fallout:

• Man Utd suffer 'one of worst European nights' in Como
• 'I was one of them watching that and I wasn't happy all' - head coach Michael Carrick apologies to fans
• 'That's on the manager and staff' - United skipper Bruno Fernandes questions Carrick's tactics
• Carrick responds to Fernandes' comments in his post-match news conference: "Whatever tactics you play, if you don't run you aren't going to win."

Simon Stone
BBC Sport Manchester United reporter in Como

Michael Carrick very much reminded me of Ole Gunnar Solskjaer in the way he went to Manchester United’s fans immediately after the 4-1 defeat at Como, and held his hands up in apology.

Solskjaer did something similar after the 4-1 loss to Watford in November 2021.

It is amazing how both situations unravelled so quickly. For Solskjaer, there were 11 games between a home EFL Cup defeat by West Ham and the Watford game, which proved to be his last in charge.

United played their 11th game of the season last night, a campaign that began with that terrible performance at Hull City.

There is no doubting the ‘United’ credentials of both men. But in an environment as unforgiving as this, you have to win matches.